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Old 04-14-2018, 10:08 PM
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last month i used the first time, it was two teaspoons AL99 (they said it can remove ba)+2 teaspoons rowaphos, added step by step. however, i noted some sps bleached within a few days so i removed them completely. the pink mille stopped growing after that, no growing tips. this month, i added another two tea spoon rowa and let it in a few days (i was away ). when i came back i found the some STN, not all of them. some tenius r still ok, but some nice coral just faded.

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Did you add all together on a reactor or separated? I do not think you can mix these products together in one system. I suspect maybe you triggered a chemical reaction that added an element to your system that bothered coral. Gfo, al99, rowphos alk sr chemical products that works through a certain chemical reaction to do the function...

If that's what happen you need frequent wc to reduce whatever that is added to your system..
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Old 04-14-2018, 10:18 PM
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Another data point here, since colors are fading it might be an indication of quick po4 reduction, maybe even down to zero in short time.
You might need to aid coral with some nutrient and reduce reactor flow a bit but carefully so not to increase no3 po4 too quick

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I can not really see it from the upload water test results a couple of pages back but you have mention that the Al level is high already. I would expect the reason from the Al based absorber you have used. Under different circumstances and within a for saltwater aquarium common PH range they can leach Al. I can not say much about the product as I never used it but if that is the issue, some additional water changes might help if the affected corals are not damaged to much already.

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I can not really see it from the upload water test results a couple of pages back but you have mention that the Al level is high already. I would expect the reason from the Al based absorber you have used. Under different circumstances and within a for saltwater aquarium common OH range they can leach Al. I can not say much about the product as I never used it but if that is the issue, some additional water changes might help if the affected corals are not damaged to much already.

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Alex, are you aware of any po4 absorber that is not al based or does not leach? Just wondering if you are aware of a product...

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I have not really worked with PO4 absorbers but there are basically two different types available, iron based and Al based. What I have said was referring to the Al based absorbers which can be problematic if directly used in saltwater but this might differ from product to product, who knows

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I have not really worked with PO4 absorbers but there are basically two different types available, iron based and Al based. What I have said was referring to the Al based absorbers which can be problematic if directly used in saltwater but this might differ from product to product, who knows

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That make perfect sense. Regular gfo are iron based and I believe the rowphos which the user used is al based.
Very helpful Alex thank you..always we learn from you
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That make perfect sense. Regular gfo are iron based and I believe the rowphos which the user used is al based.
Very helpful Alex thank you..always we learn from you
i think rowa is iron based, al99 is al based. Al99 must be use in a small water flow to make sure they don't move. I have done some water change recently, see if things can get better or not.

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Sorry I mixed it upside down..you are right.
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Do u guys think I can dose something else to help the recovery?
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Not really, stabile parameters are important now and all changes should be done very slow.

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Hey guys, I just did another icp test, all parameters r getting better. ATM finally stopped everything is getting better.

However the iodine is still low, only 24μg, the target is 55-75.

I would like to know can I add pif into my daily dose as 4 drops/daily?

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Hey guys, I just did another icp test, all parameters r getting better. ATM finally stopped everything is getting better.

However the iodine is still low, only 24μg, the target is 55-75.

I would like to know can I add pif into my daily dose as 4 drops/daily?

Thanks guys
I usually do not stress about iodine. It's almost alwayes zero with me. There is high correlation between iodine dosing and cyano so I avoid dosing it with high quantities. Just follow the pif dosing and do 3 times a week. But Alex might have diffrent openion here which I will be interested in knowing lol

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Sorry I meant to say I does pif and jod 3 times a week not only pif

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From my experience Iodine is not very stabile in saltwater which is the reason that it will be measured low, not sure if it really makes sense to test for this level.

I have dosed iodine just by the look of the corals, for example if everything is OK and corals blue coloration is to light, millepora corals PE is minimal iodine does help.

Usually dosing this element 2 – 3 x weekly works very well.

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Old 05-19-2018, 08:36 PM
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From my experience Iodine is not very stabile in saltwater which is the reason that it will be measured low, not sure if it really makes sense to test for this level.

I have dosed iodine just by the look of the corals, for example if everything is OK and corals blue coloration is to light, millepora corals PE is minimal iodine does help.

Usually dosing this element 2 3 x weekly works very well.

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thanks I will try. I'm feeling the blue sps are not easy to keep the color. I got two blue acro, which become quite dark now. Phosphate is 0 by hanna and 0-0.2 no3. Rest of sps r ok so far.
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