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Old 11-16-2019, 03:21 AM
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Ah ok. I'll replace the hose and see if this helps. Thanks
I always use my mobile phone to read. In addition, the sand bed in the picture shows signs, will it be a problem? Or just the relationship of the pictures.
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Old 11-17-2019, 05:12 AM
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Ok i picked up a new nitrate test kit yesterday. It turns out my NO3 is 0 while my PO4 is 0.20! Am i correct in thinking this nutrient imbalance is likely to be fuelling the dinos?

What can i do to increase NO3 without increasing PO4 any further?
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Old 11-17-2019, 07:53 AM
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I am talking about my thoughts (I can't say that I am right)

1. I don't think there is a direct absolute relationship between NP and Dinos.

2. The current NP level I think is normal, should slowly reduce the phosphate level, and "not increase the nitrate"

What is the net water volume?
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Old 11-17-2019, 11:00 AM
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Ok i picked up a new nitrate test kit yesterday. It turns out my NO3 is 0 while my PO4 is 0.20! Am i correct in thinking this nutrient imbalance is likely to be fuelling the dinos?



What can i do to increase NO3 without increasing PO4 any further?
Yup you want to bring up your no3 a bit. zero levels have reported correlation with cyano not dino thu.
If am you I would first try to reduce the po4 a a bit. 0.2 is high.
As a quick band aid, you can use rowphos for couppe of days. Jist ti bring po4 down. But careful rowaphos is very effective and can bring down po4 to zero quickly.
So read the rowaphos instruction very well, use half the recomended dose. Use it in a reactor if possible instead of passive. Test po4 every day while using it. Once po4 is less than 0.1 remove it.
On parallel you can bring tour no3 a bit higher by reducing the reactor flow rate and or reducing the carbon dosing.
Do bot do all at the same time, take it step by step.

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Old 11-17-2019, 12:07 PM
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Thanks Ohashimz

I'll slowly reduce the reactor flow and cut back a little on the Zeobak/Zeostart.

Also my microscope finally arrived. I am pretty sure i am dealing with 'Ostreopsis Dinoflagellates'. I couldn't get a photo through the microscope but comparing them with other online examples i believe i am dealing with Ostreopsis.

What's the best way to fight them?
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Old 11-17-2019, 12:12 PM
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Thanks Ohashimz

I'll slowly reduce the reactor flow and cut back a little on the Zeobak/Zeostart.

Also my microscope finally arrived. I am pretty sure i am dealing with 'Ostreopsis Dinoflagellates'. I couldn't get a photo through the microscope but comparing them with other online examples i believe i am dealing with Ostreopsis.

What's the best way to fight them?
Man honestly this dino thing is very teicky,
Whoever tells you they have a cure that works 100% is not telling the truth lol.
Dino is type of zooxanthellae, meaning whatever condition that coral thrive at dino most likley will do the same.
I would start with po4 reduction not the reactor flow tinkering yet.
Bring down your po4 to lower than 1..but not zero.
I would shot for 0.05 to 0.08.
Once that's achieved start reducing your reactor flow but not lower than the min recomended flow.
Then reduce carbon dosing to half (zs).
Bring down your zb to 2 or even one time a week.

Just do all this in steps do not go and do everything at the same time you will mess your system.

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Old 11-17-2019, 12:13 PM
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Btw cc will bring up no3. I think that's the philosophy of the product to fight cyano by bringing up no3.
You can start doing it daily as recomended and monitor your no3

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Old 11-17-2019, 01:18 PM
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If I understand that the amount of water is right

1. Replace the hose first
2. After replacing the hose, turn off the light and use a black bag to shield the main display system and the sump. Do 3~7 days
3. During the period, if the coral is healthy, the reactor should be kept at the appropriate hourly flow rate. Unless the coral has TN or loose tissue, reduce the flow by 1/2. Still executing the Zeo plan

Zeo Bac 3 drops, 2~3 per week
Zeo Start 0.3ml x2. Every morning and night
Zeo Sponge Power 3 drops every other day
Optional Zeo BioMate 6 drops every other day
Zeo CoralSnow 6ml, daily

At the same time, adjust the skimmer to wet and clean the collection cup as much as possible to make it more exportable.

Maintain water parameters
Kh 6.5~7.5
Ca 400~420
Mg 1250~1300
K+ 380

Salt + water Refresh the elements in a balanced way and vacuum the sand when changing the water

Using resin material as the last channel of the filter is very good
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Old 11-17-2019, 11:29 PM
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The dark period is good and I actually forgot to add it to the plan. It will help jump start the treatment by subduing some of the dino population.i would do 48h complete darkness peripd
Am just not sure why would we expect a change in the parameters without changing the dosing is that, the current dosing(and bio filtration) took you to the state of zero no3 and high po4. Clearly your bio filtration is consuming more what your no3 addition is (feeding and mechanical filtration).
I doubt keeping the same zeo dosing would change the no3 and po4 situation. That's my reason of recommending to change doing and reactor flow.

Reducing reactor flow will reduce the ammonia processing speed and will bump no3 a bit, while the gfo will reduce the po4 a bit if done correctly.

My 2 cents...

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Old 11-24-2019, 12:09 AM
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Any updates? How is the system ?

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Old 12-04-2019, 02:00 PM
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Sorry for lack of response. Work and family life has been crazy.

Quick update... I've been Dino free for around two weeks now. I replaced the hose and carried out a 'Elegant Corals' regime which was recommended by a friend. The regime involved a combination of: bubble scrubbing with fresh/outside air, carbon dosing, increased nutrients, introducing various bottled bactira's and dosing hydrogen peroxide. My corals and tank is looking much better.

I wasn't sure what affect the regime would have while running Zeovit so i've only been dosing Zeobak and Zeostart at 50% my usual dosage and not performed a water change in around 3 weeks.

My po4 is currently at 0.24ppm and my no3 is at 10ppm. I would like to start slowly reducing my po4 but want to keep my no3 around 5-10ppm. What would be the best way to reduce po4 without reducing no3? I believe my dino outbreak originally started as my no3 bottomed out so want to avoid this from happening again.
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Can you please post your actual dosing regimen and the reactor flow of your ZeoVit reactor ? Also how much material do you have in the reactor ?

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