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Old 10-22-2018, 03:56 AM
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I have a couple of additional questions:

Have you had issue with nutrients before or has this suddenly happen since using ZeoVit ?

When exactly have you started with ZeoVit on this tank ?

How have you controlled nutrients before using ZeoVit ?

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I have a couple of additional questions:

Have you had issue with nutrients before or has this suddenly happen since using ZeoVit ?

I think this is relatively new massive spike. I think it is related to overdosing fuel.

When exactly have you started with ZeoVit on this tank ?

Years ago

How have you controlled nutrients before using ZeoVit ?

Believe so. However not sure if sold on zeovit or not. Per my comments about why using zeo.

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It is recommended to treat Zeo Coral Snow, and vacuum the siphon sand when changing water, Skimmer adjusts the wet, see the changes in PO4, and try BM if you like.

Remember that too fast nutrients are reduced, stress on corals, and slowly adapting corals to customary environments

If you prefer, when PO4 is high, temporarily stop the addition of amino acids, such as AA.

Xtra Special for very low malnutrition environments, reducing dose addition, may be a good thing

In general, LPS, my concept relies on light sources, bacteria, plankton, enough to provide food for their growth.

The food you add to add supplements can be slightly reduced.

It is usually supplemented with nutrients and added more meaning in a low malnutrition environment.


I like your tank, the concept of nature, really beautiful


Not sure Snow will help with phosphates? Touch wood but dont have cyano or slime algae.


Coral Snow liquid will help with yellowing compounds that activated carbon misses. It has also been shown to be beneficial in treating unwanted slime algae and cyanobacteria. The product contains natural calcium-magnesium carbonate and other specialized compounds. Clay-like composition and properties make for a highly absorbent medium that can be taken up by corals and protein skimmers.

This is primarily a secondary biological facilitator for other Korallen-Zucht products like Amino Acids Coral Vitalizer, B-Balance and Potassium-Iodide/Fluoride Concentrate.

Dose Coral Snow 1 mL per 25 US gallons every day mixed with a different product to enhance results. Combine the desired amount of Coral Snow and additive, rest for 5 minutes then add directly to a high flow area of the tank. Initial cloudiness is normal and not harmful. After initial cloudiness disappears you will notice the water is extremely clear, very similar to when fresh activated carbon is added to the tank. Do not exceed recommended amount.

To help eliminate cyano bacteria add one drop of ZEObak per 25 gallons of tank water to Coral Snow. Dose every two days until cyano bacteria is gone.


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Yes, correct. It can be said that it is the final product of nutrients. I also regard Zeo Coral Snow as a "carrier." Then remove them with Skimmer

Most people can control NO3, PO4. As I mentioned above, most of them are the final products, so reducing organic matter is also reducing nutrient production.

However, reducing them can be done in many ways, such as: water flow, Skimmer, zeolite, activated carbon, microbes, sponge growth.

Every mode is nothing more than "purifying water quality", reducing the time that nutrient salts stay in the tank, with different functions and different attributes.

Reducing organic matter is equivalent to reducing the formation and residence time of nutrients.

Organic matter also affects the color of corals,However, being too low is not a good thing.


@But there are no cyano or mucilage algae.

I am not a professional messenger. They are composed of many different forms. They all need a medium (organic matter). As I mentioned above, controlling organic matter is also equal to controlling NP. They will be different. The pattern is expressed, and there may be cases where the NP is low but the algae grows. Another type is bacteria (Cyanobacteria).
The function of Zeo CS is to reduce their (very fine ink), so I regard it as a kind of "carrier" and also a kind of nutritious "transportation". The water quality is achieved, the water quality is particularly crystal clear, and the light source is greatly increased. The penetration of corals.

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Yes, correct. It can be said that it is the final product of nutrients. I also regard Zeo Coral Snow as a "carrier." Then remove them with Skimmer

Most people can control NO3, PO4. As I mentioned above, most of them are the final products, so reducing organic matter is also reducing nutrient production.

However, reducing them can be done in many ways, such as: water flow, Skimmer, zeolite, activated carbon, microbes, sponge growth.

Every mode is nothing more than "purifying water quality", reducing the time that nutrient salts stay in the tank, with different functions and different attributes.

Reducing organic matter is equivalent to reducing the formation and residence time of nutrients.

Organic matter also affects the color of corals,However, being too low is not a good thing.


@But there are no cyano or mucilage algae.

I am not a professional messenger. They are composed of many different forms. They all need a medium (organic matter). As I mentioned above, controlling organic matter is also equal to controlling NP. They will be different. The pattern is expressed, and there may be cases where the NP is low but the algae grows. Another type is bacteria (Cyanobacteria).
The function of Zeo CS is to reduce their (very fine ink), so I regard it as a kind of "carrier" and also a kind of nutritious "transportation". The water quality is achieved, the water quality is particularly crystal clear, and the light source is greatly increased. The penetration of corals.


Ok I added some in today. Will be replacing carbon today also. Thanks


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All good. Thank you for your advice.


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Can you tell how much ZeoVit material you have in the reactor and what the flow through the reactor is (measured) ?

The sand from the picture you have posted does look dirty. I would try to vacuum it while each water change for some time to remove the sediments from the deeper sand layers. If this does not help to reduce PO4 after some time it might make sense to replace the sand completely with a shallow aragonite sand bed.

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Can you tell how much ZeoVit material you have in the reactor and what the flow through the reactor is (measured) ?



The sand from the picture you have posted does look dirty. I would try to vacuum it while each water change for some time to remove the sediments from the deeper sand layers. If this does not help to reduce PO4 after some time it might make sense to replace the sand completely with a shallow aragonite sand bed.



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Hi Alexander

I use one bag of it. When I rotate the stones out I leave about 20% of the old ones to transfer bio. Also I soak the new stones over night in ro water and rinse with it.

In regards to flow when I tested it last time doing math it was the correct flow. I have been considering getting the flow module for the apex.

Also I shake the stones 2 times a day for 1 minute (apex scheduled with the Avast). Also I shut the pump down on a cycle. 90 min on 90 off. Also the flow is not on when the avast is running.

Sand is kinda clean. You might be looking at the glass down there. Need to get the razor blade out. Under neither the tank does not look bad either.

Tonight scheduled to ZZ and BM. Tomorrow thinking about water change or is it to soon from last Saturday one?

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That all sounds good but I worry about the PO4 level. 0.5 mg is really high and it will take a longer period to get it down.

Even if the sand looks clean I would recommend to vacuum it for some time while the regular water changes.

Do you have a lot of sediment on the rocks ?

Lets continue dosing as follows:

ZeoBac – 4 drops every other day
ZeoStart – 0.4 ml x daily
SpongePower – 4 drops daily
BioMate – 8 drops daily pure
ZeoZym – 1 spoon 2 x weekly pure

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That all sounds good but I worry about the PO4 level. 0.5 mg is really high and it will take a longer period to get it down.

Even if the sand looks clean I would recommend to vacuum it for some time while the regular water changes.

Do you have a lot of sediment on the rocks ?

Lets continue dosing as follows:

ZeoBac 4 drops every other day
ZeoStart 0.4 ml x daily
SpongePower 4 drops daily
BioMate 8 drops daily pure
ZeoZym 1 spoon 2 x weekly pure

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Will do. Water change schedule recommendations?


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That all sounds good but I worry about the PO4 level. 0.5 mg is really high and it will take a longer period to get it down.

Even if the sand looks clean I would recommend to vacuum it for some time while the regular water changes.

Do you have a lot of sediment on the rocks ?

Lets continue dosing as follows:

ZeoBac 4 drops every other day
ZeoStart 0.4 ml x daily
SpongePower 4 drops daily
BioMate 8 drops daily pure
ZeoZym 1 spoon 2 x weekly pure

G.Alexander


Another question came to mind. When do you recommend doing them (zz and bm together is at night with lights and skimmer off). For above what do you recommend?

Thanks again for your help


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I would recommend you a weekly water change of 10%. Personally I have not mixed the different products but it can be done, especially if CoralSnow is used additional. It does not matter when you dose it, if you like to you can switch off the skimmer for 2 hours while dosing to keep the “elements” for some additional time in the water column before they get skimmed out.

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I would recommend you a weekly water change of 10%. Personally I have not mixed the different products but it can be done, especially if CoralSnow is used additional. It does not matter when you dose it, if you like to you can switch off the skimmer for 2 hours while dosing to keep the elements for some additional time in the water column before they get skimmed out.

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How often would you use CS? Was not on the list above.
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1-2 x weekly 8 ml.

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