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Old 09-22-2016, 01:45 PM
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Angry Dinoflagellate - how to reat with Zeovit

I have sadly recently diagnosed that I have what appears to be dinos, my snails are dying and have a brown snotty mess everywhere! There are loads of methods to treat or combat Dinos but unsure what is safe with Zeovit, does anyone have any experience of dealing with Dino on a system with zeovit! I've read about elevating PH, black outs, sugar dosing, use of GFO etc etc but what can be used with Zeo?

Hopefully someone can help as i'm at the end of my tether now!
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Old 09-23-2016, 02:09 AM
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I do not have first hand experience with them but many where able to get rid of them by a total black out period for a couple of days. A chemical product is the last thing I would personally use.

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Old 09-23-2016, 06:13 AM
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Will fish and corals be ok for a few days with no lighting?

What chemical treatments are there?

I believe you can use vodka dosing or sugar so that the bateria mutiple and out compete for nutrients could it theoretically be possible to over dose ZEObak into the tank to utilise the nutrients?
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Old 09-23-2016, 11:22 AM
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I have also problems with dinoflagellates
I tried 3 days complete black out
It went well for about a week and also I lowered the intensity of my lights 70%
But now they came back again, I'm doing another 3 days black out to see if it dyes
I stop doing water changes to avoid feeding them let's see what happens
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Old 09-23-2016, 11:39 AM
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I'm trying to elevate the PH above 8.4 slowly to see if this kills them off as apparently the toxic type of dinos doesn't like elevated PH levels! Failing this I might try the sugar! Lol
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Old 09-24-2016, 12:03 AM
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I fought it and won. Osteoporosis that I identified with microscope. I tried the blackout. It might work for about a a week or two. H202 works too but it'll mess up your other flora too so it's risky. What worked for me was dosing coral snow and bak to out compete the dinos. I got a bowl, put a few drops of zeofood7+bak+cyanoclean +biomate +zeozym+about 2 cups of tank water, let it sit over night (warming or "fermenting" ) in the tank, then adding to the tank in the morning. The idea was to grow more zeobak and cyanoclean bacteria with the zeofood so I could starve out the dinos. It took about a week but they are gone. Be patient and starve the suckers. Up the flow. Cut back on lights. Skim wet. Watch your extra nutrient burden. Holding out on a water change might benefit. Also your fish will be fine in 3 days of darkness if you go that route.
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Old 09-24-2016, 05:28 PM
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Cool, that sound like the theory I was getting at with adding loads of ZEObak! I've got some Zeo food, ZEObak, zeo zym, biomate so will give this a try! Thanks for the info!
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Old 09-24-2016, 09:52 PM
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Good luck. I would also consider removing your snails if you can. They seem to die first after they eat the dinos which further enables more dinos to grow. The only CUC that survived my dino infection was a few hermits, a conch, and urchins. All my turbo snails and shrimp died.
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:02 AM
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I am also battling with what I think is Dinoflagellates. It only appears on the Sand bed though.

I was curious to if the Zeo Start will also be feeding them..

How do you go about identifying them with a microscope, I have not experienced any invertebrate death.
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Old 09-27-2016, 11:15 PM
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I picked up a cheap microscope locally. It doesn't need to be fancy. Ostreopsis which is a type of dinoflagellate that causes harm will look like a brownish yellow seed. If you put it on a slide with a drop of water you can see them floating around. They look like a kite that's tethered to something in a windstorm, flowing back and forth. They die almost instantly in fresh water of H202. ZS3 should still be dosed as recommended for your tank volume.
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Posted a short video over here:

http://www.zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20208

Just klick on the picture in the first post.

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Old 09-28-2016, 06:06 AM
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Excellent, i will have a read.

Whatever it is I don't believe its toxic, i haven't suffered no livestock loss.
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Old 10-14-2016, 08:59 PM
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My dinos recently came back in small numbers and I've been treating the same as I listed above. It seems to have worked again.
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thanks for the information
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Old 06-18-2017, 08:53 PM
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Lots of thanks for the info. Please help identify why my dinos are and if this treatment will work. See video below.
DON'T TRY BLEACH. I nuked all livestock.
5 days black out and h202 helped but came back in a week.
Others reccomend raising po4 and n03, but I'm not convinced.
Please share your formula again bet the 2 cups of tank water. How many drops of each. My tank is a 120g.
Thanks!
See video of dinos below

https://youtu.be/pAJH3j8-UK0


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