zeovit.com Premium Aquatics  

Go Back   zeovit.com > General Discussion Forums - International > General Discussion - English

General Discussion - English General Marine Aquaria Discussion with and without ZEOVit.

Active Threads
0 Wechsel auf Zeovit - Werte zu hoch
Last Post: jacky
Posted On: Today
Replies: 26
Views: 1,809
0 New Zeovit Tank Start~
Last Post: jacky
Posted On: Today
Replies: 15
Views: 504
0 switching to zeo system possibly
Last Post: JMac
Posted On: Today
Replies: 119
Views: 5,488
0 Fauna Marin zeo-Matic reactor
Last Post: Craig the plumber
Posted On: Today
Replies: 8
Views: 420
0 Trying to lower Phosphate
Last Post: G.Alexander
Posted On: Today
Replies: 23
Views: 509
0 Finally ready to start :)
Last Post: jackass
Posted On: Today
Replies: 106
Views: 6,635
0 NEW GIVEAWAY Hanna Checker High Range Copper
Last Post: Premiumaq
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 0
Views: 30
0 New to zeovit
Last Post: jacky
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 53
Views: 2,133
0 Eheim Pump Outlet Question
Last Post: G.Alexander
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 1
Views: 85
0 Brown Water and Nano
Last Post: G.Alexander
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 13
Views: 531
More...
  #1  
Old 03-06-2018, 12:00 AM
Meir's Avatar
Meir Meir 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Jerusalem
Posts: 54
Default green algae/cyano

hi every body ,
runnig zeovit aquarium for 6 yaers .
happy with the low nutrients and growth.
about the colour , improvement required. no complaints.
in the last 3 month start to apear somthing green on the rocks.
it can be easliy peeled off from them.
i tried zeobak+cs
zeozim+biomate
cyano clean , i use normally.

attached some pictures.

any suggestions?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20180302_125337.jpg
Views:	44
Size:	87.0 KB
ID:	20630   Click image for larger version

Name:	20180302_125404.jpg
Views:	37
Size:	91.8 KB
ID:	20631   Click image for larger version

Name:	20180302_125435.jpg
Views:	34
Size:	69.6 KB
ID:	20632   Click image for larger version

Name:	20180302_125447.jpg
Views:	35
Size:	65.6 KB
ID:	20633   Click image for larger version

Name:	20180304_132353.jpg
Views:	34
Size:	91.0 KB
ID:	20634  
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-06-2018, 02:01 AM
G.Alexander's Avatar
G.Alexander G.Alexander 目前離線
ZEOadmin
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 34,678
Default

I have seen this kind of cyanos while dosing more ZeoFood, AminoAcids or XTra in the past. After temporary stop to dose these the stuff does slowly decrease but this can take some time. In addition you can remove it vacuum it out while a water change. Dose 2 ml CoralSnow / 25 US gallons daily while the treatment.

G.Alexander
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-06-2018, 04:44 AM
Meir's Avatar
Meir Meir 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Jerusalem
Posts: 54
Default

thank you.
i will do it.
you have appreciated how long it take?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-06-2018, 05:24 AM
G.Alexander's Avatar
G.Alexander G.Alexander 目前離線
ZEOadmin
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 34,678
Default

Difficult to say as I had them years ago it took 6 or 8 weeks before I totally get rid of them. Lets see how things are looking in about 2 weeks after vacuum them out regular in conjunction with the CoralSnow dosage.

G.Alexander
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-23-2018, 06:50 AM
Meir's Avatar
Meir Meir 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Jerusalem
Posts: 54
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G.Alexander View Post
Difficult to say as I had them years ago it took 6 or 8 weeks before I totally get rid of them. Lets see how things are looking in about 2 weeks after vacuum them out regular in conjunction with the CoralSnow dosage.

G.Alexander
update: more than 2 month of treatment . i stoped dosing zf ,amino and extra.
the algae / cyano decrease in some arrears but every 2-3 weeks it grow up again in small amount.

what do you think?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-23-2018, 07:20 AM
jacky jacky 目前線上
Almost a ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 114
Default

My thoughts - filtration, flow creation, biomass, feeding amount, clean sludge, water change rate, ro water, protein machine, activated carbon, replacement filter cotton, replacement live rock, bacteria addition, zeolite flow, mainly With "organic matter",
Water purification, organic matter is composed of organic compounds, the main process is to help by the enzyme catalysis of fungi or bacteria, and has a good flow and filtration, you can try to strengthen the removal, with a good source of water with physical equipment Help control nutrients, monitor water quality, add bacteria to change form, and if you get worse after stopping, you should improve
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-23-2018, 12:35 PM
Bugger's Avatar
Bugger Bugger 目前線上
ZEOdabbler
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,079
Default

I had it in my tank for much of 2017 and some of 2018 it seems to have gone away at this point but none of the treatments did any thing for it/
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-23-2018, 06:20 PM
jacky jacky 目前線上
Almost a ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 114
Default

1. Food source
Cyanobacteria have a wide range of foods that can be absorbed and used. All inorganic salts (PO4, NO3, NH4, etc.) and organic matter can be absorbed and converted into energy. However, this organism survives after the appearance of algae and plants. Competition will usually only occur in high dissolved organic matter (DOM) waters, because algae and plants are more efficient in the absorption of inorganic salts, so there is less organic dissolved material (DOM), and the more abundant inorganic salt water is algae. In contrast, Cyanobacteria usually reproduce in large quantities in excess organic lysate. Blue-green algae (Cyanobacteria) is also commonly used as an indicator to determine organic pollution in water. When organic contaminants are present for too long, algae and plants are also Can't survive because the water is too toxic. This characteristic of Cyanobacteria is very similar to that of exotic bacteria. It can decompose organic matter into inorganic salts, and bacteria can no longer use inorganic salts. However, this organism can continue to be used. Therefore, organic dissolved substances in water are already in short supply. At the same time, the organism can live for a long time until the nutrients are absorbed by other organisms (blue-green algae does not eat organic food directly, but breaks it into inorganic substances and absorbs them). When the water lacks nitrogen, the blue-green algae can also convert the dissolved nitrogen (N2) in the water to NH4 (nitrogen-fixing effect) to achieve the nutrients needed for its rapid reproduction. Even more terrifying is the lack of certain blue-green algae. When elements are capable of finding other alternative elements, they can survive in the cylinder! It can be seen that limiting the concentration of inorganic elements is not easy to eliminate blue-green algae!

2. Light
The length of the light and the wavelength affect the survival of Cyanobacteria. Under strong light, they are usually occupied by algae and other organisms. Therefore, it is easier to see such organisms in low light, and the impact of the most important wavelength is affected. In general, blue light, green light, and purple light with a wavelength below 560 nm do not contribute to their photosynthesis. A little light between 560 nm and 700 nm is enough to make such organisms soar, and long light illuminates the blue-green algae (Cyanobacteria). The continuation of the life cycle has a great influence. It grows most prosperous under the light of 24 hours. The blue-green algae divide once every 20 minutes. After 24 hours, there will be 2^72 (72 of 2) individuals, which is approximately 4.7*. 10^21, this splitting speed is terrible! Under the light of only 8-10 hours a day, it will not form its growth advantage, and it can maintain the ecological balance in the tank.

3. Water flow
Most of the sclerotia will only appear in places where water flow is slow, but they can still grow in areas where water flow is strong. Areas where water flow is slow means that organic matter deposition areas are easily formed. These sediments provide no source of sclerotia. Absolute food sources, so Red Spirulina particularly likes to grow in places with poor water flow. The water flow also affects its ability to resist ultraviolet light because the water flow will take away the air bubbles above it. These air bubbles are a barrier to help them resist ultraviolet light or strong light, but some types are not affected. The

How to Prevent and Control Red Seaweed in Aquarium

After understanding the ecological habits of red algae, we must be able to prevent and remedy the disease. Please see the following brief instructions:
1. Strictly control the production of organic pollutants in the tank
Feeding of fish in the tank must completely avoid food sedimentation in the bottom of the tank. When feeding large quantities of corals, it must have strong filtering equipment to clean the food residue at any time. Organic dissolved from unprocessed organic matter (POM) The DOM is several times larger than fish excrement. The pollution caused by the death of organisms such as fish, corals, and microorganisms is also quite high. This organic contaminant in the form of high nutrients is the best food for red algae. source! Simple forms of amines, vitamins and other additives are also sources of food! But it is difficult to survive without feeding all living things in the tank! Therefore, step by step to increase the amount of feeding, so that the bacteria in the tank and the amount of feeding can be balanced, naturally there will be no excess food left to the red mud algae, the prevention of other organic pollutants can refer to the organic matter in the water tank Instructions.

2. Appropriate lighting
Good lighting is one of the ways to avoid the proliferation of red algae. According to scientific research, under pure blue light, even if the nutrient red algae grows very slowly, the corals can grow well in general by choosing high color-temperature lamps. It can limit the growth of red algae and has good visual effects. It can be described as three-fold. If the organic nutrients are controlled, the red algae is still active. If you temporarily turn off the lights for 3-5 days, you can block the life cycle, which is very effective. If the nutrient is not controlled, it will still relapse after the light off period.

3. Full water flow
Improve the flow of water in the tank, avoid dead corners of the water, and avoid deposits in any place in the tank. The chance of algae in the tank is rather low unless the organic contaminants have accumulated to a considerable extent.

4. Supply of organic carbon sources
The supply of pure organic carbon (DOC) to red seaweed is accelerated organic nitrogen (DON) is absorbed by the use of red algae, after the addition under the same conditions, the number of red algae will explode, even if the light does not Strong can still absorb DON in a short time. It will be even better if organic carbon is added before manual removal.

5. In addition to red algae
The ability of sclerophyllous algae to stand for 3.5 billion years, in addition to its superb vitality, itself produces toxins that have a great relationship with antibiotics, which makes it possible for the organisms that can use such organisms as food to be very few. Toxin-infected organisms often die if swallowed. According to some foreign reports, organisms that eat red algae include very few red-footed hermit crabs, some algae snails, and so on. Actually, creatures that eat poisonous foods are a bit The feeling of animal abuse, some organisms must eat other foods in order to detoxify, but there is not necessarily such detoxification food in the aquarium, so many people often buy these organisms have been raised soon.

6. Absorb existing red mud algae
It is very effective to remove the algae from the tank when it is used to change the water and suck it out of the tank by water pipes. However, to get the best results, it must be easy for the algae to absorb the organic pollutants in the tank. It is necessary to follow a lot of water changes, if the water is not pure enough, the effect will be greatly reduced.

7. Use antibiotics
Antibiotics can kill algae, but algae's lice are not easily eliminated! If the environment does not change, it will usually recur after use, and it will be even more serious because the killed organisms in the tank will become a food source for algae again.

8. Strengthen filter equipment
To make the protein very wet, using activated carbon, zeolite, etc. will help prevent the production of algae. If the algae in the tank has already exploded, then in addition to adding a lot of pure water, add the organic adsorbent. Adsorption of cotton and other can play a greater effect.

9. Cultivation of organisms capable of absorbing large amounts of organic lysates
Like soft corals, sponges, shellfish, etc.

10. Avoid outdoor dust entering the cylinder, especially when the wind is large, be sure to close the window. If there is serious air pollution or suspended matter in the city, consider installing an air filter. Iron ions are the electronic transmitters of the nitrogenase in the erythrastic algae. The amount of iron in the tank has a great relationship with the number of red mud aquarium groups, and iron ions are more critical than phosphoric acid. The iron in the dust will increase the iron content in the tank above its demand (iron hypothesis by John Martin).

The

Four. Red mud algae "heavy" treatment ten steps

Day 1: Stop feeding and any additives
Day 1: Remove all filter media in the tank, remove sediment from any corner, red algae, and place a small amount of high quality live rock, live sand
From the 1st day: increase KH about 2-3dkh. If there is calcium, you must first wash the calcium sand.
From the first day: Protein machine humidity, zeolite, activated carbon
Day 1: Prevent dust from entering the tank
From day 1: Strengthen water flow and improve water flow
Days 1-7: Add Organic Carbon
About Days 10-14: Remove the mad red dragon's algae again and restore the KH value.
Days 1, 4, 21, and 28: More than 20% water changes (RO + seawater
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:24 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.7, Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright by ZeoVit.com