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Old 05-05-2018, 01:44 AM
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Default jacky Novice questions for improvement

1. Total water volume of the entire system (including pools, etc.) - U.S. gallon/inch gallon/liter
2. Water purification (including oil sump, etc.) - U.S. gallon/inch gallon/liter 158.5 U.S. gallon
3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technology
4. You are using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.) No
5. Are you using ozone? Never used
6. Are you using UV? Never used
7. What type of skimmer is used (type, water rating) Germany BK-Deluxe 300
8. What is your actual PO4 and NO3 levels Salifert No3 0, HANNA HI736 PO4 0ppm
9. What is your actual Ca, Alk, and Mg levels? salifert Ca 420, salifert Alk 7.5, salifert Mg 1260, salifert k+ 390
10. What filtering method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.)
11. The type of light (watt, color temperature, age, etc.) T5 10 only 54w. Coral plus * 4, Blue plus * 3, Actinic * 2, Purple plus * 1
12. What corals do you keep? sps
13. Organize the color (light or dark)
14. How long has the tank been running? zeovit 7 months
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system? The beautiful color is my goal
16. Any supplemental dose (type, quantity, cause, etc.)
17. Live Stone (How Much, How Old, etc.)
18. Any current issue
19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, algae bloom, algae, etc.)
20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently changed, etc.) salifert hanna
21. Current doses, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.) Currently used bak, start3, spong power, kz cv, Amino Acid, xtra, B-Balance, Flatwormstop, Coral Booster, potassium ldo flu
22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temperature, etc.)
23. Which brand of salt do you use? Red Sea Salt

Kh 7.5, ca420, mg1260, k390, temperature 25, no3 0, po4 0 ppm. dosage of bak 6 drops * 2 times a week, start3 0.2ml depending on po4 situation, kz cv 6 drops daily, booster 6ml mixed fws6ml daily cv Before feeding, xtra 6ml daily, AA6 drops 3 times a week, sponge power 6 drops 3 times a week, coral snow 1ml a week 2 times, plf 6 drops a week 2 times, k+ maintained at 390ppm using potassium chloride , Calcium reactor, specific gravity 1.025, 20 liters of water per week, 1.5 litres of kz zeolite placed in the bottom of the bag, kz activated carbon 600ml. Lights all open 10h, white light 8h, coral volume of about 15, mp40 wave *1, tunze6105 made waves*1, algae conditions were all normal and good. How can I upload pictures and can I refer to teaching? Sorry I use translation software, thank you kz forum
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Old 05-05-2018, 04:21 AM
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Go to flicker . com upload and then share photo and copy paste that here
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Old 05-05-2018, 10:06 AM
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:19 AM
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Old 05-05-2018, 02:02 PM
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Personally I would dose phosphate you corals look washed out. I would dose just one drop a day of phosphorus
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Old 05-05-2018, 02:36 PM
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Personally I would dose phosphate you corals look washed out. I would dose just one drop a day of phosphorus
Thank you for suggesting, what is the intention of adding phosphoric acid? Although the instrument measures 0 ppm of phosphoric acid, fish, feeding, live rock, amino acids... the system reaches a certain equilibrium, the phosphoric acid data is 0~0.01, I believe that phosphoric acid is not really 0ppm, it is close to 0ppm, Nature Ocean, I also follow the KZ system's recommendations
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Old 05-05-2018, 05:25 PM
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What are you using to test phosphate?
Henna goes down to 0.003 all reefs have at least 0.005 phosphate even at the crest top level corals have at least that much.
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Old 05-05-2018, 06:22 PM
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Do not you think your skimmer is bigger than you need for your system? This might be the issue, you are extracting too much nutrients.
Also before you start dosing stuff I would recommend you first try addressing it through the zeo system. This is the healthiest way instead of dosing stuff that can cause issues down the road.
To increase po4 s but I would dial back the reactor flow a bit, reduce zs a bit (do not reduce less than half the recommended dose)
Decreasing reactor flow will raise nutrient a bit.
Reducing zs will decrease po4.
Also your nutrient supplements are bit low for your volume.
So you have oversized skimmer, low nutrient supplements that might be why your coral is washed out..
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:12 PM
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Effective and Powerful Protein Separator (Isolation Dross)
7. Adequate light
8. High-quality additional nutrients
9. Additional ingredients at low levels
10. The most suitable water quality (Ca, Mg, KH, Salinity)
11. Change water regularly every week
The goal to achieve
The purpose of using this system is to create a low nutrient environment, mainly to reduce nitrate (NO3) and phosphate (PO4) without reducing other important minerals such as calcium (Ca), magnesium (Mg) and Calcium carbonate (KH)
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:24 PM
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What are you using to test phosphate?
Henna goes down to 0.003 all reefs have at least 0.005 phosphate even at the crest top level corals have at least that much.
Image from top to bottom Test phosphate. Do you think I want to increase the output or input of po4, thank you for your comments
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:27 PM
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Do not you think your skimmer is bigger than you need for your system? This might be the issue, you are extracting too much nutrients.
Also before you start dosing stuff I would recommend you first try addressing it through the zeo system. This is the healthiest way instead of dosing stuff that can cause issues down the road.
To increase po4 s but I would dial back the reactor flow a bit, reduce zs a bit (do not reduce less than half the recommended dose)
Decreasing reactor flow will raise nutrient a bit.
Reducing zs will decrease po4.
Also your nutrient supplements are bit low for your volume.
So you have oversized skimmer, low nutrient supplements that might be why your coral is washed out..
Nutritional Supplements Dosage How can I suggest adjustments, thank you
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:32 PM
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G.Alexander ,Can you give me advice,thank you
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:38 PM
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Nutritional Supplements Dosage How can I suggest adjustments, thank you
Zeo nutrient supplement are
Aa,bb,cv,zf,cb.
Your dosages seema low for your volume. As an exampme: CV dosage is 1 drop per 25g.
Same with zf, aa.
You can go aa up to daily if your po4 no3 are low.
Also your system will benefit from xtra and xtra special. Take a look at the latest guidelines, xtra and xtra special are direct impact on coral if they are washed out.
I would recommend the following
Dose
zf 2 times a week
Aa every other day
Bb 3 times a week
Xtra per the labor recommendation.
Keep an eye on your po4 no3, as long as they are low(not zero, do not drop to zero) your coral will improve.
Finally am still concerned that your skimmer is way oversized. Bubble king are very conservative and advice to follow their recommendations not like other skimmers where you can over size. Further kore they advice that your consider only your display tank water volume when you choose a size with bubble king. Which means you are way oversized. Skimmer will pull too much nutrients from the water.


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Old 05-05-2018, 11:49 PM
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G.Alexander ,Can you give me advice,thank you
I do also think the skimmer is much overrated which can cause issues however from the pictures I can not see much of a issue at the moment.

Can you please try to describe exactly what the actual problem is ?

Please also measure the flow of your ZeoVit reactor, should not be higher than 160 US gallons per hour.

Do you run the carbon in a reactor ?

The lighting spectrum is also very blue, for my taste, having am more balanced spectrum would be better, replacing 2 or 3 of the blue bulbs with white bulbs.

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