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alexbendzick1 08-12-2017 02:43 PM

struggling beginner algae problems
 
Hello,

I have a one month old tank running right now. I have followed the cycling steps verbatim and I'm struggling with cloudy water and stringy slimy algae all over the rocks. I have tried dosing breaks and the cloudiness goes away. I just started dosing Pohl's Xtra and Coral Vitalizer after the introduction of my new sps frags. I have also noticed my filter sock turns light green withing the first day or two after putting it in the sump. Clownfish and White Tail Bristletooth Tang look happy and healthy so far. Please help!


1. Gross water volume of your complete system (115 us gal)
2. Net water volume (90gal)
3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique (NO)
4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (NO)
5. Are you using Ozone (NO)
6. Are you using UV (NO)
7. What skimmer are you using (reef octopus regal 200-s)
8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels (not sure)
9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels (K=365, Ca=400, Mag= 1400, KH= 7)
10. What filtration method do you use (skimmer, carbon)
11. Type of light (2 Kessil 180, 1 radion xr30 gen 4 using coral growth mode)
12. What corals do you keep (2 small chalice frags 1 porites frag)
13. Tissue color (look perfect)
14. How long has the tank been running (1 month)
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system (sps dominant tank)
16. Any supplemental dosing (pohls, coral vitalizer, and zeofood7 for coloration)
17. Live rock (i used dry rock aprox 60-70lbs)
18. Any present problems (ALGAE)
19. Problem description (rocks went from dark green algae on them to hairy slimy brown algae)
20. What test kit do you use (Red Sea KH Ca Mg and K all new)
21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit daily, ZEObak twice weekly 5 drops, ZEOfood 5 drops twice a week, ZEOstart .75ml per day, Sponge Power 3 drops daily)
22. Other water parameters and water stability (apex readings are Salinity 33-34ppt, ORP 230, Temp 77F, PH 8-8.6 sway daily)
23. Which salt brand do you use (KZ reefers best)

Bugger 08-12-2017 04:36 PM

Could you post a picture of the slime algae. It might be dinos which It is reccomended that a two to three day blackout of the tank occur

alexbendzick1 08-12-2017 05:33 PM

3 Attachment(s)
here you go! thank you!

Bugger 08-12-2017 10:22 PM

How long has it been like this for.
Its hard to say what that is
I would just go ahead and black out the tank. Better safe then sorry
Chemicals to kill it off dont really work
As for the green stuff you might just have to let it run its course
You might have a bloom of phytoplankton on your hands that is causing the socks to turn green

G.Alexander 08-13-2017 12:38 AM

Hi Alex :)

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Does the slime disappear while the night growing back quick after switching on the light in the moring ?

G.Alexander

alexbendzick1 08-13-2017 05:05 PM

yes it does! and its grows so rapidly. i have had the light off for almost 24 hours and it seems to be disappearing hopefully. what would you recommend for dosing during the 3 days lights out and also following?

arringar 08-13-2017 08:11 PM

I'd like to stress how important it is to know what your nitrate and phosphate levels are. Do you have test kits for it? If not you really should purchase some. It should be considered vitally important equipment for any reef tank. Diagnosing problems requires more than visual observation, it requires reliable data.

For ph you said 8-8.6? 8.6 is really pushing the danger zone.

alexbendzick1 08-13-2017 11:08 PM

on order right now. should be able to give you answers in the next few days. Thank you for the advice!

G.Alexander 08-14-2017 12:13 AM

From the pictures and the description those are Dinoflaggelate. The cloudy water is a result of them and it will clear up as soon as they have gone completely.

G.Alexander

alexbendzick1 08-15-2017 03:25 PM

i had the lights out for 3 days and turned them back on and within 20 minutes i had growth again. my new test kits should be here tonight.

bmwm235i 08-15-2017 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexbendzick1 (?? 332520)
i had the lights out for 3 days and turned them back on and within 20 minutes i had growth again. my new test kits should be here tonight.

If they are dinos which they appear to be but need a scope id to know for sure its not good. Blackouts do not work. There is a thread on r2r thats over 460 pages long. We have tested bleach, chlorine, ph increase, metro, h202 dosing. The only method that has the most success stories will conflict with zeovit but high nutrient system. Nitrate dosing.

For myself i just broke down my system and restarted. I lost all my corals to dinos. What so many people do not understand is the explosion of dinos in the hobby and the many different kinds. There are some members on that forum that if you send a sample to them they will id the type of dino and if there is any cure. Mine were 95% on the sand only which was the worst case. Personally i did metro dosing which helped some, bleach did nothing for me. H202 did nothing. High ph worked just as good as metro but not a cure, blackouts were a joke, they started to appear with 1 hour. The kind i had would kill my snails with their toxins. Its truly thr cancer of reef tanks, id never wish dinos on my worst enemy. Good luck.

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alexbendzick1 08-16-2017 02:19 PM

Phosphate is at 0.05ppm, and nitrate is at 3ppm

Bugger 08-16-2017 07:03 PM

Well no wonder why your corals died dosing chlorine to the tank BMWM235i
But in all seriousness you have two good options and I think both should be tried
Pick up a bottle of Vibrant or Tunze Care Bacter or just use daily additions of biomate and cyano clean. They should quickly take care of you Nitrate and out compete with the dinoflaggelate
And do the blackouts.

bmwm235i 08-16-2017 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugger (?? 332550)
Well no wonder why your corals died dosing chlorine to the tank BMWM235i
But in all seriousness you have two good options and I think both should be tried
Pick up a bottle of Vibrant or Tunze Care Bacter or just use daily additions of biomate and cyano clean. They should quickly take care of you Nitrate and out compete with the dinoflaggelate
And do the blackouts.

I already restarted the tank. Vibrant did nothing for me.

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arringar 08-17-2017 08:58 PM

Have you considered sending a water sample to triton to determine if you have some sort of contaminant or severe trace element imbalance?


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